What had we done to make Kannada non-cool?

The Deccan Herald today reports an event held by an FM channel in Bengaluru with Kannada being used as the cash cow. This is, of course, good news:
The theme of the event was Kannada is cool. The whole venue was given an ethnic Karnataka touch with usherers dressed in ethnic clothing and tender coconuts served as beverages for the guests.

Even the radio jockeys were dressed in ethnic wear. The evening began with a crash course in Kannada for the audience, which the hosts declared was important in order to communicate.
And this is what Kunal Ganjawala - quite a sought-after voice for Kannada film songs - had to say about Kannada:
"I love Kannada and it’s my pleasure to perform in this language, with so many talented artists."
But the question we'd like to ask our readers is - do we need a non-Kannadiga to remind us that Kannada is cool? This is sounding very much like needing foreigners to tell us that Yoga is cool!

What had we ourselves done to paint the picture that Kannada is non-cool? Why do film producers seek non-Kannadiga singers for movies? What's wrong with our own singers? Can't they sing as well as the Kunal Ganjawalas? Can't they market themselves as well? Are they just too naive? Are they just "individual contributors" waiting for some non-Kannadiga manager to use them as resources in a project? Or what's the real deal here? Ideas?

For the full news report, read: Kannada Calling

24 comments:

Clangorous said...

Nothings wrong with our singers/artists... . Only thing that is wrong among Kannadigas is having an inferiority complex that a 'Sonu Nigam..', 'Shreya Ghoshal'...'Kunal Ganjawala' can sing better than our local singers(even though Shreya Ghoshal was the runnerup and Archana Udupa was the winner in Sa Re Ga Ma Pa). Our "Open Minded" kannadigas does not feel a thing even when these imports mispronounce words totally changing the meaning... eventually killing the language. I remember Yograj Bhat in one of the interviews saying no one could have done justice to Mungaru Male songs other than Sonu Nigam and Shreya Ghoshal...who according to him took the songs to a different level. Its the people like these who bring up a false mindset in audience. Most of the times local singers are used as track singers to make these bollywood imports understand how to pronounce and sing.. but eventually even if these imports commit mistakes .. no one cares to correct them. Atleast in the yesteryears...outside singers like SP Balasubramaniam. PB Sreenivas, S Janaki, P Susheela, Vani Jayaram rarely used to make pronounciation mistakes. But nowadays only thing a film maker wants are a bunch of bollywood imports to sing in their film.... they even go to the extent of shamelessly justifying that Audio Companies wouldnt take the rights if there arent enough of these mispronounced imports. First thing Kannadigas need to do is stop having a mindset that anything bollywood is superior and anything local is inferior. A Kannadiga does not mind praising even a remake/stolen filth of bollywood but would not hesitate finding ways to brand a decent Kannada movie as substandard or a remake even though they are original efforts. A Kannadiga would praise that gay SRK starrer 'Swades' but would fail to accept that it was a remake of a Kannada movie 'Chigurida Kanasu'. A Kannadiga would praise a cliched/overhyped style king 'Rajanikanth' with his monotounous and repetitive gimmicks never even bothering to comment on his looks.. but would be the first to call Kannada heroes ugly...surviving because of surnames... talentless etc even though there are good efforts in trying to be different in mannerisms, style and acting. I can go on like this, giving examples of the double-standards which our kannadigas follow when it comes to anything local/kannada.... It is this inferiority complex which needs to be changed... . As soon as a kannadiga starts feeling proud about his culture/language/fellow talented kannadigas ...its quite natural that our own singers/artists would get their due recognition and credit they deserve.

shobha.koppad@gmail.com said...

@Clangorous,

Well said sir !!

what's your email id,, want to talk to you.

Anonymous said...

I dont think we have enough good singers in kannada who can bring the market to the same level as Sonu/Shreya ghoshal does ...Come on dont be a hyprocrite to compare Swades and Chigurida kanasu .. swades was a far better movie than chigurida kanasu ... with this kind of approach ( blindly thinking all kannada is good ) many ppl are cashing in on this opportunity and whilst making big bucks actually throwing the interest of kannada ppl away .... best example is the recent kannada movies ... most of them are remake of some hindi/tamil/telugu movies ...

Kannda since ages has accepted the other language ppl .. as mentioned by only .... yes the worrying part is are they doing justice to the opportunity given .. i am not sure we can blame them outright .. its the so called kannada producers/directors who has to make sure that they get the things right ...

alde eshto jana kannada nelada heroines dont know how to talk kannada ... they are indeed dubbed in movies ... is this not a pseudo love ?

Phantom said...

Mr. Anonymous,

[i]come on dont be a hyprocrite to compare Swades and Chigurida kanasu .. swades was a far better movie than chigurida kanasu [/i]

How far Sir?

The script, the screenplay, starcast, the cinematography every thing was above standards in "Chigurida Kanasu" compared to Swades with lame script. Yep, I would love to know how to light a bulb with generation of 230 volts;)

Well , I don't want to deviate away from the real issue here.

[i]I dont think we have enough good singers in kannada who can bring the market to the same level as Sonu/Shreya ghoshal does[/i]

Then you need to get your facts right, the people who teach these so called good singers have lot more talent than them.

Have you heard Badri Prasad sing (poor guy has become a track singer).

Kannda since ages has accepted the other language ppl .. as mentioned by only .... yes the worrying part is are they doing justice to the opportunity given ..

you wrong here again, you need to read some kannada news papers before, atleast the interview from V. Manohar where he refers to Udit Narayan singing, and says he is a dumb who knows less about singing more about bragging.

[i]alde eshto jana kannada nelada heroines dont know how to talk kannada ... they are indeed dubbed in movies ...[/i]

same goes with you Pseudonymous.

sandhya said...

well said phantom... Our people are so brainwashed that they have learnt to think that it is cool to call any thing that is non-kannada as cool... And look down up-on anything that is Kannada.. Kannadigas need to learn from people from three sister states of Karnataka about how to keep yourself together

Kayathri said...

The new look is refreshing.

Kannadiga has to strengthen the Entertainment industry really well. It has far reaching effects than just a business. Its a way of expressing ourselves to the whole world.

More kannada programmes need to be aired outside the country too, theirby creating market for Kannada audience.

We need few movies in a year for the world audience aswell. Has the industry thought of cashing in on the "NRI" audience.

Kayathri.

Clangorous said...

@ shobha.koppad@gmail.com,

Thanks, My email id is clangorous@gmail.com

@ Anonymous

I would like to know if you have seen both the movies... Chigurida Kanasu was a well made movie.. unfortunately our so called 'Open Minded' Kannadigas did not find it good enough when compared to the monotonous acting of SRK in Swades.... Both Shivaraj and SRK are almost of the same age.. look at Shivaraj's fitness .. not a single wrinkle in his face...but SRK ? wrinkles all over his body when he showed his six packs..:P...but still our hindi bootlicking kannadigas feel SRK as good.. who cant even dance/emote/do stunts properly..

Coming to the singers part.. as already mentioned Archana Udupa was the National Level winner in Sa Re Ga Ma Pa and Shreya Ghoshal was the runnerup.. look at where both are.. ? Archana is reduced to an anchor while Shreya Ghoshal is top most singer... this is the main difference.. Hindians supported good talent, gave her the due credit.. but what did kannadigas do... went behind bollywood imports .. ? This is nothing but inferiority complex... Agreed its the Music Directors/Producers who choose these singers.. they choose it because people like you feel local singers are not good enough... If you really want to find the difference between bollywood imports and local singers .. try listening to 'Usire Usire..' sung by both Sonu Nigam and Rajesh Krishna.. you can clearly connect with the one sung by Rajesh.. Sonu sings the same song as though he has constipation...Please find the list of few good Kannada singers if you feel there arent any :

Male Singers :

Hemanth
Rajesh Krishna
Badri Prasad
Ram Prasad
Karthik
Vijay

Female Singers :

Sangeetha Katti
MD Pallavi
Archana Udupa
Chaitra
Inchara
...
list goes on... cant remember lot of them as of now.. would appreciate if someone can add to this list...

Few of these inferior kannadigas made a big hue and cry when Rajkumar started singing his own songs ... saying PB Sreenivas suits him better.. if Rajkumar had changed his mind then.. we would have missed an awesome talent in Kannada.. mind you he is the only actor who has got National Award for both acting and Singing..

So many good singers like C. Ashwath, Rajkumar Bharathi, Kasturi Shankar, BR Chaya, BK Sumithra, Manjula Gururaj lost chances because of the inferior attitude of kannadigas who preferred SP Balasubramaniam..S Janaki.., P Susheela.. Vani Jayaram instead of local singers .. which made those local singers switch to light music.. if possible try listening to their Sugama Sangeetha songs .. you can clearly see their talent which was never given the due credit.

Coming to the movies part.. agreed there are lot of remake movies made in Kannada..mind you the so called originals of Hindi/Tamil/Telugu are again straight lifts from Hollywood/International movies...Try googling the top movies for the originals .. you can clearly make out most of these movies are lifted from Hollywood, chinese , Japanese , Korean movies. To give you a current example : Ghajini is a straight lift from a Hollywood movie : Memento .. ofcourse with slight modifications with masala added.. but the Tamil Producer has filed a law suit not to release the Hindi version in Tamil Nadu where in the Tamil Movie itself was inspired from the hollywood : Memento.

I guess if you dont know Amitabh starrer Baghban was a remake of Kannada movie : School Master.., Mahaan was a remake of Shankar Guru... Phoonk was a remake of Kannada movie : Tulsi Dala which was inturn inspired from Exorcist.. All Film Industries do remakes.. its not that Kannada movies do.. only difference is other industries lift from International movies.. and our movies are remade from these already lifted ones. So it is this inferiority complex which needs to be eradicated from kannadigas.. automatically you would see original quality movies with local talented artists/singers. I guess our elders coined the Gaade : Hittal Gida Maddalla looking out this inferior attitude of Kannadigas.

Rudresha said...

@ Clangorous,

Your writings are too informative, thanks...

You said right, we, Kannadigas always look at the negative side of anything that is local/kannada. The one among the many things i have experienced is about the movie "Aapthamithra". When this movie was made all the media review about the movie started with the fact that it is a remake of the one Malayalam movie. When the same movie was remade in Telugu and released I was in Hyderabad and all the media review I saw were mainly focussed on the content of the movie. The reviews never mentioned about the fact that the movie was the remake of Kannada hit "Aapthamithra".

Clangorous said...

@ Rudresha,

Thanks...Forget calling that Rajanikanth starrer Chadramukhi remake of Apthamitra... they even started projecting that Apthamitra was a remake of Chandrumukhi.. Any sane person who has seen both the versions ... if he/she is non-biased would surely feel Apthamitra as a better movie with Soundarya's acting way superior to Jyothika's ...believable Psychiatrist's acting of Vishnuvardhan way more decent than the laka... laka.. laka.. cartoon acting of Rajanikanth.. but what to do few of our own kannadigas feel anything non-kannada superior..

Deepu said...

One more thing I need to add is the attitude of movie makers from Kannada, Upendra who became a superstar for his creativity is nowadays preferring to remake Tamil, Telugu, Hindi movies which are nothing but a cheap remake of English movie. I remember Bazigar which was proclaimed for its superb script was itself a remake of some english movie. Nowadays non kannadigas are producing Kannada movie so may be these guys are responsible for remakes, but still kannada actors should resist from signing up into these movie makers. Simply this will erode the confidence of kannadigas in thier language and more importantly with the ability of kannadigas. AS people are yarding a language based on the quality of movie made in the local language.

Time as come for Kannada film makers to watch international movie,read Kannada or English novels, may be read some research journals on hi tech projects, some brainstorming, or reward script writers with heavy endowment equivalent to lead actors. I am sure these measures movie makers will be able to come up with a innovative movie better than anything done in India. They can even avoid the monotonous loves story we are seeing in the Indian movie industry.

Anonymous said...

Film industry should stop re-making the films.
These are the people (remake producers) who are brought Kannadiga on the backfoot.
Even low profile languages like marathi are making thier own films and here we Kannadga havig great history of making good movies still arguing about Remake films.

Let industry make 100% Kannada movies and we kannadiga proudly support for the same.

Clangorous said...

@ Deepu,

Well Said....Its not that we do not have enough novels which can be made in to movies... look at how Puttanna,many more directors used to make novel based movies... Issue is, movie making has become a lucrative business and every one wants to make quick money... which is the reason they go behind remaking successful movies from other languages...but reality is Kannadigas mostly reject remake movies and support decently made originals.. but still our producers , KFCC , Govt haven not realised this... they have even gone to the extent of giving subsidy to remake movies as well which is nothing but suicidal for good talents who dream to make it big by making originals.

Vivek Shankar said...

Kannadigas have this stupid inferior complex. It's just a story made in their minds for no reason. it's like a tiger meowing like a cat. that's what happened to Kannadigas.

Ragavendra said...

Awesome Clangorous..................

Great Work Done..........

I don't understand why we dont help or encourage ourselves. Why are outsiders encouraged so much ir-respective of any field by us. Believe me..........there can never be a better person then Kannadiga or a better place than Karnataka. I am the luckiest lad and I am proud to be one of the Kannadiga.........

dandapinda said...

Another problem is the curbing or ban of Dubbing. Isn't it a better thing to permit Dubbing? In the early 60's most of the movies were made in Madras as studio & recording facilities were still being setup in Karnataka. Seeing this, the then actors and others banned dubbing as it would become a threat to our Industry as no Kannada movies would be made and everything made in Tamil would have been dubbed.

Coming to novel based movies, directors like Girish Kasaravalli do create gems which win the Golden lotus award every time but the problem is they are restricted only to a certain section of the society and not across as Puttanna Kanagals movies used to be.

Clangorous said...

@ Raghavendra,
Thanks for your support...

@ dandapinda,
One more reason why Dubbing is opposed is that lot of people would loose their livelihood which would otherwise still be intact even if a remake is made...

Moreover have you noticed how hilarious hollywood movies sound when dubbed to Indian Languages like Hindi, Tamil , Telugu.. most of the dialogues dont even project the exact meaning the way it was written...

Anyways most of our Kannadigas hardly watch Kannada movies as they are usually bootlicking either Hindi/Tamil/Telugu movies... So no point dubbing them again in Kannada....infact it would become suicidal to original Kannada movies as even people who comprehend only Kannada will start watching those dubbed imports which would reduce the market of Kannada movies even more...

Infact Kannadigas are quick learners of any language unlike narrow minded non-kannadigas who even want to dub Hollywood movies into their language...So I feel instead of thinking about dubbing.. we should encourage well made authentic movies and good talents. I feel the subsidy extended to even remake movies should be first taken back and only original movies needs to be encouraged. At the same time a strong law/policy needs to be implemented about the number of theatres/shows being allocated to non-kannada movies

dandapinda said...

@Clangorous,

Forget Hollywood movies, at least the Non Kannada Indian cinema can be dubbed or a rule stating that they should have Kannada subtitles should be made mandatory.

I thoroughly do not support remakes as they curb originality which is what we see in our industry now. Yes, dubbing will have its own problems as it will curt down livelihood.

The KFI needs to come up with a proper law or impose the existing laws of restricted number of prints (which again needs to be looked considering digital screening of cinemas).

Clangorous said...

@ dandapinda,
As I have already mentioned.. most of our urban kannadigas want to show off their prowess in Hindi and other languages... so they would anyways watch the originals instead of the dubbed ones. Kannada Subtitles is a good idea, so any day well adapted remakes as per out nativity is any day better than the dubbed ones. Atleast people would still get work in remakes.. but with dubbed ones only the dubbing artists can survive. Yes remake does hamper originality ... but even hollywood adapts/remakes lot of non-english movies but at the same time they refine it to suit the English audience... same way its ok if well made remakes like Apthamitra comes once in a while... but dubbing on the other hand may encourage people who usually see only kannada movies also to switch to those dubbed ones. At the same time, movies like 'Cheluvina Chittara' which totally had Tamil smell should be discouraged as it caused more harm than good.

dandapinda said...

@ Clangorous,

The issue again boils down to who decides which movies should be remade and the knowledge of the director to adapt it for our nativity.

As we say in namma baashe 'uppinakaayi UTa aadre enagatte' is the way remakes are now in our industry.

Clangorous said...

@ dandapinda,
I totally agree your point... even I personally hate remakes... but what I was trying to say is...looking at the trend how kannadigas prefer to watch non-kannada movies... allowing dubbing would be something like :'Nidde Maduvanige Hasige Hakkottanthe...'

Anonymous said...

Ya..We Kannada people are having Negative Frame of mind

Girish said...

I don't understand why you guys are up against Dubbing. I think you guys still harbor the same fear and feel inferior that dubbed films will kill original ( mean remake films) Kannada films which was prevalent in 1960s.

All the neighboring states of Karnataka makes films nearly 100 films each in Hindi,Telugu,Tamil and Malayalam and the localisation of talent is 75 to 90% except Hindi films as Hindi is widely spoken by 50% of World's illiterate population and understood by 90% of Indians.

Its difficult to withstand the onslaught of all the films our neighboring states invades our Cosmopolitan Karnataka with 64% Overall Kannadigas which comprises of 4% Kannada Loving, 10% Kannadigas Loving ,30% Indifferent Kannadigas ,20% Kannada Hating Kannadigas,36 % Kannadigas Loved and Respected non-Kannadigas.

There is a basic difference in protecting our language Kannada and our Brethren Kannadigas

1) Kannada is a immortal language which just films and film actors its about stone inscriptions,rich literature in leaflets,dramas,plays,music,poetry,philosophers,architecture,engineering marvels and so on.

2)Kannadigas are mortals who made this possible and also include people for the just the namesake Kannadigas and also comprises people who purely do it for Money and Commerce whether its Film stars,Politicians or Business People.

People you have to make a choice whether you speaking to protect Kannada or Kannadigas.

If Kannada then everything let it be in Kannada
or
If Kannadigas let every kannadiga given preference whether he loves Kannada or not.

Kannadigas also includes all the sons and daughters born in Karnataka or to people born to people from Karnataka.

If Kannadigas (Remember we are living in a global village with Internet capturing everybody's life)

1) Then Ban all non-Kannada films to be dubbed in Kannada
2) Ban all producers,directors,heroines,technicians,singers,cinematographers and equipment vendors, side actors etc.,.
3) Allow remake of all successful films with 100% Taxfree but only with all Kannadigas Film Crew.
4)The Mantra is "Kannadigas and Only Kannadigas"
5)Then we no longer exist in Global Village and remove global we exist in Village.

If Kannada then

1)Subtitle all non-Kannada Films releasing in Karnataka with Kannada and English simultaneously.
2)Subtitle all Kannada Films in Hindi and English so our native Kannada Films have a wider reach and audience.
3)100% Tax rebate,50 Lakhs subsidy for All original Direct Kannada Films.
4)100% Tax Exemption and 1 Crore Subsidy for all Award Winning Kannada Films.
5)1 crore as Award Prize for all winners in Film Festivals which included National,International and State awards.
6)50% Tax on all Remake Films and No subsidy.
7)Allow dubbing of non-Kannada films into Kannada and Tax them 100%
8)Tax all non-Kannada films 200%
9)We will be living in a Global Village with films and culture of the whole world in our own Language Kannada.

Guys its up to you to decide whether you like Kannadigas to be protected or Kannada to be safe and grow.

Because this is how English grew as a language do everything in Language and now its a Global and Universal Language.

Let all our Kannada brethren be brave,open and face challenges.Lets not be cowards,narrow and close minded weak to face the challenges.

Girish said...

If Kannadigas (Remember we are living in a global village with Internet capturing everybody's life)

1) Then Ban all non-Kannada films to be dubbed in Kannada
2) Ban all producers,directors,heroines,technicians,singers,cinematographers and equipment vendors, side actors etc.,.
3) Allow remake of all successful films with 100% Taxfree but only with all Kannadigas Film Crew.
4)The Mantra is "Kannadigas and Only Kannadigas"
5)Then we no longer exist in Global Village and remove global we exist in Village.

If Kannada then

1)Subtitle all non-Kannada Films releasing in Karnataka with Kannada and English simultaneously.
2)Subtitle all Kannada Films in Hindi and English so our native Kannada Films have a wider reach and audience.
3)100% Tax rebate,50 Lakhs subsidy for All original Direct Kannada Films.
4)100% Tax Exemption and 1 Crore Subsidy for all Award Winning Kannada Films.
5)1 crore as Award Prize for all winners in Film Festivals which included National,International and State awards.
6)50% Tax on all Remake Films and No subsidy.
7)Allow dubbing of non-Kannada films into Kannada and Tax them 100%
8)Tax all non-Kannada films 200%
9)We will be living in a Global Village with films and culture of the whole world in our own Language Kannada.

Girish said...

If Kannadigas (Remember we are living in a global village with Internet capturing everybody's life)

1) Then Ban all non-Kannada films to be dubbed in Kannada
2) Ban all non-Kannada producers,directors,heroines,technicians,singers,cinematographers and equipment vendors, side actors etc.,.
3) Allow remake of all successful films with 100% Taxfree but only with all Kannadigas Film Crew.
4)The Mantra is "Kannadigas and Only Kannadigas"
5)Then we no longer exist in Global Village and remove global we exist in Village.

If Kannada then

1)Subtitle all non-Kannada Films releasing in Karnataka with Kannada and English simultaneously.
2)Subtitle all Kannada Films in Hindi and English so our native Kannada Films have a wider reach and audience.
3)100% Tax rebate,50 Lakhs subsidy for All original Direct Kannada Films.
4)100% Tax Exemption and 1 Crore Subsidy for all Award Winning Kannada Films.
5)1 crore as Award Prize for all winners in Film Festivals which included National,International and State awards.
6)50% Tax on all Remake Films and No subsidy.
7)Allow dubbing of non-Kannada films into Kannada and Tax them 100%
8)Tax all non-Kannada films 200%
9)We will be living in a Global Village with films and culture of the whole world in our own Language Kannada.

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